Black Velvet Band (I), The
DESCRIPTION: The singer meets and courts a girl with fine hair tied up in a (black/blue) velvet band. As they are out (walking) one night, she steals a gentleman's (watch). The crime is discovered; she plants the evidence on the singer; he is convicted and punished
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: before 1854 (broadside, Bodleian Harding B 16(25c))
KEYWORDS: crime courting robbery transportation punishment clothes
FOUND IN: Britain(England) US(Ap,MW,So) Australia Ireland Canada
REFERENCES (20 citations):
Gardham-EarliestVersions, "BLACK VELVET BAND, THE"
Randolph 672, "The Blue Velvet Band" (1 text)
Bush-FSofCentralWestVirginiaVol4, pp. 65-66, "Blue Velvet Band" (1 text, 1 tune)
Meredith/Anderson-FolkSongsOfAustralia, pp. 49-50, 145-146, 192-193, "The Black Velvet Band" (2+ texts, 3 tunes)
Anderson-StoryOfAustralianFolksong, pp. 15-16, "The Black Velvet Band" (1 text, 1 tune)
Anderson-FarewellToOldEngland, pp. 47-49, "The Black Velvet Band" (1 text)
Fahey-Eureka-SongsThatMadeAustralia, pp. 48-49, "The Black Velvet Band" (1 text, 1 tune)
Paterson/Fahey/Seal-OldBushSongs-CentenaryEdition, pp. 61-64, "The Black Velvet Band" (1 text plus an excerpt)
Manifold-PenguinAustralianSongbook, pp. 10-11, "The Girl with the Black Velvet Band" (1 text, 1 tune)
Stewart/Keesing-FavoriteAustralianBallads, pp6-7, "The Girl with the Black Velvet Band" (1 text)
Williams-Wiltshire-WSRO Mi 535, "Black Velvet Band" (1 text)
Kennedy-FolksongsOfBritainAndIreland 313, "The Black Velvet Band" (1 text, 1 tune)
Sedley/Carthy-WhoKilledCockRobin, pp. 136-138, "The Black Velvet Band" (1 text, 1 tune)
OCroinin/Cronin-TheSongsOfElizabethCronin 178, "The Town of Dunmanway" (1 text, 1 tune)
Spaeth-WeepSomeMoreMyLady, pp. 148-150, "The Girl in the Blue Velvet Band" (1 text)
Johnson-BawdyBalladsAndLustyLyrics, pp. 38-41, "The Girl with the Blue Velvet Band" (1 text)
Cohen-AmericanFolkSongsARegionalEncyclopedia2, pp. 658-661, "The Blue Velvet Band" (1 text)
Shay-BarroomBallads/PiousFriendsDrunkenCompanions, pp. 213-216, "The Girl in the Blue Velvet Band" (1 text)
DT 313, BLACKVEL BLKVEL2 BLUEVEL (BLUEVELV2 -- definitely a parody, possibly traditional)
ADDITIONAL: Hugh Anderson, _Farewell to Judges and Juries: The Broadside Ballad and Convict Transportation to Australia, 1788-1868_, Red Rooster Press, 2000, pp. 449-450, "The Black Velvet Band" (1 text, with a tune on p. 604)
Roud #2146 and 3764
RECORDINGS:
Cliff Carlisle, "The Girl in the Blue Velvet Band" (ARC 5-12-61, 1935; rec. 1934)
Tex Fletcher & Joe Rogers, "The Girl in the Blue Velvet Band" (Decca 5403, 1937)
Bill Monroe & His Blue Grass Boys, "The Girl In The Blue Velvet Band" (Columbia 20648, 1949)
Brian Oxberry, "The Black Velvet Band" (Fragment: Piotr-Archive #59, recorded 07/27/2021)
Hank Snow, "The Blue Velvet Band" (Bluebird [Canada] B-4635, c. 1939)
BROADSIDES:
Bodleian, Harding B 16(25c), "Black Velvet Band" ("To go in a smack, down at Ba[r]king, when a boy, as apprentice I was bound", Swindells (Manchester), 1796-1853; also 2806 c.16(199), 2806 b.10(116), "Black Velvet Band"
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "The Black Velvet Band (II -- New Zealand)" (tune, meter, lyrics)
cf. "The Black Velvet Band (III)"
cf. "The Charming Young Widow I Met on the Train" (woman pickpocket theme)
cf. "Pretty Little Dear" (theme: man imprisoned, woman thief)
cf. "Tars of the Blanch" (tune, per Bodleian Harding B 16(25c))
SAME TUNE:
Hank Snow, "Answer to 'The Blue Velvet Band'" (Bluebird [Canada] B-4688, c. 1939)
NOTES [311 words]: Roud splits this into two songs, based perhaps on whether the band is black (#2146) or blue (#3764). It may well be that the "blue velvet band" versions are a rewrite. Certainly the version produced by Spaeth is the sort of thing you'd expect when someone "improves" a traditional piece: The stanza form is different, and it's full of cutesy forms.
But it's the same story, and the "blue" form is less popular, so I'm content to lump them while considering the blue velvet band secondary and the result of redaction.
It should be noted that the fullest versions of the "Blue" version, such as Spaeth's, are extremely full, with (in effect) two plots: First the wild meeting which results in the young man being convicted and punished, and then a final scene in which the young man misses the girl and goes to find her, only to find her dead. There is another "Blue" version (in the Index as "Blue Velvet Band (II)" ) in which the middle part, about the prison, has broken off. Genetically, it's still the same song, and perhaps should file here -- but the parts have separated so far that it seemed better to split them.
In any case, there are so many black and blue velvet bands floating around the tradition that you probably should check all songs which use these titles.
Sedley/Carthy-WhoKilledCockRobin suggest that the song is a set-up: The owner of the watch and the girl worked together to frame the singer of the song in hopes of gaining a reward. Conceivable, of course, but at least one of them would need to testify to the crime, so this would take time, and the risk would be substantial.
Incidentally, it seems pretty certain that the song was well-known in the ninetheenth century; according to Spaeth's A History of Popular Music in America, p. 608, there was a popular piece of 1894 entitled "Her Eyes Don't Shine Like Diamonds" by Dave Marion. - RBW
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